Scott Martindale

  by Scott Martindale
  CEO, Sabrient Systems LLC

 The latest CPI report coupled with the stagnant jobs market essentially gave the FOMC license to continue its rate cutting cycle this week, and fed funds futures now give highest odds for three more 25-bp cuts over the next 12 months. Historically, rate cuts give an outsized boost to growth over value stocks. But this time might be a bit different given the lengthy stretch of outperformance of growth over value and large over small caps, driven by the Big Tech juggernauts, as investors have anticipated a more accommodative Fed for a long time. After several sporadic attempts, could the market finally be ready for sustained market rotation? Let’s explore.

Interest rate cuts provide a favorable backdrop for stocks in general, by stimulating business and consumer borrowing and encouraging investment in risk assets. While growth stocks are more advantaged by interest rate cuts through valuation (i.e., a falling discount rate on long-duration cash flows), value stocks are more advantaged through fundamentals (i.e., lower borrowing costs and rising consumer demand) because they are often capital intensive and/or cyclical.

To be sure, even with “higher for longer” interest rates, investors have been quite willing to pay up for all that Big Tech has to offer as they ride strong secular growth trends (i.e., little cyclicality) in disruptive innovation that create rising sales growth, margins, operating leverage, cash flow, ROIC, insider buying—at levels no other sector can match. With little to no concern about the level of interest rates, these cash-flush juggernauts have wasted no time in their race for supremacy in new technologies like AI, quantum computing, robotics, automation, cloud computing, cybersecurity, 3D printing, fintech, precision medicine, genomics, space exploration, and blockchain.

This has driven the major cap-weighted indexes to lofty heights, with 10 companies in the $1 trillion market cap club. And this week, Microsoft (MSFT) and Apple (AAPL) joined NVIDIA (NVDA) in the exclusive $4 trillion market cap club, while NVIDIA just surged past the $5 trillion mark!

From the April 7th lows, retail investors flipped from tariff panic to FOMO/YOLO/momentum, and the rest of the investor world jumped onboard. Besides Big Tech, speculative “meme” stocks also have been hot, and AQR’s Quality-minus-Junk factor (aka “quality margin”) has been shrinking. Moreover, small caps have been participating, as evidenced by the Russell 2000 Small-cap Index (IWM) and the Russell Microcap Index (IWC) both setting new all-time highs in October (for the first time since 2021), which is a historically bullish signal. Similarly, value stocks also have perked up, with the Invesco S&P 500 Pure Value ETF (RPV) and S&P 500 Value (SPYV) also reaching new highs.

However, while retail investors have continued to invest aggressively, institutional investors and hedge funds (the so-called “smart money”) have grown more defensive. So, maintaining a disciplined approach—such as focusing on fundamental analysis, long-term trends, and clear investment goals—can protect against emotional kneejerk reactions during murky or turbulent periods.

Stock valuations are dependent upon expectations for economic growth, corporate earnings, and interest rates, tempered by the volatility/uncertainty of each—which manifests in the equity risk premium (ERP, i.e., earnings yield minus the risk-free rate) and the market P/E multiple. Some commentators suggest that every 25-bp reduction in interest rates allows for another 1-point increase in the P/E multiple of the S&P 500. But regardless, the expected rate cuts over the next several months might already be baked into the current market multiple for the S&P 500 and Nasdaq 100 such that further gains for the broad indexes might be tied solely to earnings growth—driven by both revenue growth and margin expansion (from productivity and efficiency gains and cost cutting)—rather than multiple expansion.

As such, although near-term market action might remain risk-on into year end, led by growth stocks, the case for value stocks today might be framed as countercyclical, mean reversion, portfolio diversification, and market broadening/rotation into the neglected large, mid, and small caps, many of which display a solid earnings history and growth trajectory as well as low volatility and less downside risk. Value investors can avoid paying the Tech-growth premium. And given their more modest valuations, they also might have greater room for multiple expansion.

So, perhaps the time is ripe to add value stocks as a portfolio diversifier, such as the Sabrient Forward Looking Value Portfolio (FLV 13), which is offered annually as a unit investment trust by First Trust Portfolios—and remains in primary market only until November 14th.

In addition, small caps tend to benefit most from lower rates and deregulation, and high-dividend payers become more appealing as bond alternatives as interest rates fall, so Sabrient’s quarterly Small Cap Growth and Dividend portfolios also might be timely as beneficiaries of a broadening market—in addition to our all-seasons Baker’s Dozen growth-at-a-reasonable-price (GARP) portfolio, which always includes a diverse group of 13 high-potential stocks, including a number of under-the-radar names identified by our models.

Let me discuss three key drivers that might make the heretofore sporadic attempts at market rotation into value and smaller caps more sustainable:  Read on….

Scott Martindale

 

  by Scott Martindale
  CEO, Sabrient Systems LLC

 Overview

Well, the FOMC followed the script and cut the fed funds rate (FFR) by 25 bps (from 4.25-4.50% range down to 4.00-4.25%) in an 18-1 vote. It was the first rate cut since December of last year—even though the rate needs to be 100 bps lower, in my view, as I have been advocating for quite some time, given the prior overreliance on government spending and hiring giving way to the growing impact of elevated rates on private sector growth and hiring, particularly within rate-sensitive industries. No more government largesse means the Fed must get busy with rate cuts. Market breadth was already improving in anticipation of the Fed’s dovish turn, with market segments like small caps, value stocks, banks, and transports perking up.

Although this was a relatively tepid move by the FOMC rather than the full-throated declaration of a new easing cycle that is needed, Fed chair Jerome Powell still believes monetary policy has officially shifted from "modestly restrictive" (his words at the July meeting) to "more neutral” today and characterized the latest rate cut as a "risk management" decision in light of slowing economic activity and jobs growth on the one hand, offset by sticky inflation on the other, which I discuss in greater depth in today’s post.

Of course, slashing FFR even 50 bps would give a panicky signal to the market, so newly appointed Fed Governor Stephen Miran was the lone dissenter, favoring 50 bps. Instead, they will proceed with gradual cuts on a steady path to eventually arrive at its long-term goal of a terminal FFR around 3.00% (2% inflation plus 1% neutral rate, aka “r-star”). The CME futures market now reflects 86% odds of two more 25-bp cuts this year (75 bps total for the year, bringing FFR down to 3.50-3.75%) and 78% odds of another two cuts next year (down to 3.00-3.25%)—as well as 50% odds of three cuts next year, despite the Fed’s own dot plot of two 25-bp cuts this year and just one in 2026. In my view, this will lead to more consumer spending, business borrowing for investment/capex, earnings growth, and stock buying (including retail, institutional, and share buybacks).

In response, the major indexes surged to new highs yet again. Any attempt at a pullback has been nothing more than an overbought technical correction/consolidation, as enthusiasm grows around the promise of AI revolutionizing our lives, workplace, and society at large, leading to rising productivity and prosperity. However, while we await the fully ripened fruits of these rapidly advancing technologies, stock gains have been driven more by multiple expansion in anticipation of great things to come, as well as a weaker dollar and surprisingly strong earnings growth—albeit driven more by cost-cutting and productivity growth than revenue growth, with net margins closing in on their 2021 peak of 13%.

Thus, lofty stock valuations and tight corporate bond spreads suggest an expectation that profitability and ROIC will remain strong for the foreseeable future despite the many storm clouds (such as geopolitical threats, ongoing hot wars, tariffs and unresolved trade negotiations, struggling global trading partners, sticky inflation metrics, weak jobs growth, social strife, and now a federal government shutdown). In fact, rather than investor fear manifesting in falling stock prices and rising market volatility, it instead seems to be reflected in the price of gold and silver, which have been surging.

Back in June, Mike Wilson of Morgan Stanley asserted, “we identified 4%-4.5% [on the 10-year yield] as the sweet spot for equity multiples, provided that growth and earnings stay on track.” Similarly, Goldman Sachs saw 4.5% acting as a ceiling for stock valuations. Wilson identified four factors that he believes would sustain market strength: 1) a trade deal with China (which China desperately needs sorted out), 2) stabilizing earnings revisions, 3) a more dovish Fed (i.e., rate cuts), and 4) the 10-year yield below 4% (without being driven by recessionary data). Indeed, all four have shown good progress.

From the 4/7 lows, retail investors flipped from tariff panic to FOMO/YOLO, and the rest of the investor world has jumped onboard. Speculative “meme” stocks have been hot, and AQR’s Quality-minus-Junk factor (aka “quality margin”) has been shrinking. Moreover, small caps have been surging, as evidenced by the Russell 2000 Small-cap Index (IWM) setting new all-time high last week (for the first time since 2021), which is a historically bullish signal, and the Russell Microcap Index (IWC) has done even better. Similarly, value stocks also have perked up, with the Invesco S&P 500 Pure Value ETF (RPV) also reaching a new high, and the transports, like the iShares Transportation ETF (IYT), seems bent on challenging its highs from last November.

The broad market was long overdue for a healthy broadening to bolster bullish conviction, and indeed it appears the ducks finally lined up to support it. This broadening bodes well for further upside as capital merely rotates rather than leave the market entirely. The Carson Group has observed that for every time since 1980 that the Fed cut rates while the market was within 2% of an all-time high (21 instances), stocks continued to rise over the ensuing 12 months. As Eric Peters of One River Asset Management opined, “There is no appetite for austerity within either party, so their preference is for inflation-resistant assets, which [suggests]…stocks, gold, bitcoin.”

Overall, there is no magic here, the setup is bullish for stocks, with improving market breadth (i.e., wider participation), as we enter Q4. But that’s not to say we won’t get a pullback in the near term. Chart technicals show a relative strength index (RSI) that has been in overbought territory for a historically long time, but I think any significant pullback would be a buyable event. So, following two solidly bullish years, I think this year also will finish strongly, with a potential third-straight 20%+ year (total return, assuming dividends reinvested) in the crosshairs. But the cautionary tale is that, while not unprecedented, a third straight 20%+ year has only happened once before in the past 100 years, during 1995-99, i.e., when it ran for five straight years during the dot-com boom (followed of course by the dot-com bust). Also, while I expect longer-duration yields (and by extension, mortgage rates) to eventually recede, be careful about jumping too aggressively into them, as elevated yields might remain sticky until federal debt and inflationary pressures have shown that they are indeed moderating, as I expect they will by early next year.

Although corporate insider buying has been weak, share buybacks have already set an annual record and are on track to hit $1.1 trillion by year end. Also, investor appetite for IPOs has returned in force, with 259 IPOs on US exchanges through Q3 2025, which is up 75% versus the same point in 2024, reflecting an abundance of both investor optimism and liquidity. And Electronic Arts (EA) is officially going private in the largest leveraged buyout (LBO) in history, at $55 billion.

Furthermore, the Atlanta Fed’s GDPNow Q3 forecast has risen to 3.8% (as of 10/1), interest rates are coming down across the curve, the US economy is holding up, corporate earnings momentum remains strong, the CBOE Volatility Index (VIX) remains low, the Global Supply Chain Pressure Index (GSCPI) remains at or below the zero line (i.e., its historical average), global liquidity and M2 growth is modest/supportive, new tax rates and deregulation from the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) are supportive and stimulative, exciting new technologies are accelerating, strategic reshoring and supply chain redundancies are underway (but not total deglobalization), and secular disinflationary trends and productivity growth have resumed. The only thing missing is a fed fund rate (FFR) at the neutral rate—which is around 3.0%, in my view.

However, as I discuss in my full post below, cautionary signals abound, so investors should be tactically vigilant in this environment of rising valuation multiples, overbought technicals, sluggish corporate revenue growth (with strong earnings growth based on margin expansion from productivity growth and cost-cutting), rising bankruptcies and delinquencies, and falling Leading Economic Indicators by focusing on high-quality companies and diversification (across sectors and asset classes) while holding hedges (like protective put options or inverse ETFs).

Top-ranked sectors in Sabrient’s model include Technology, Financials, Industrials, which all seem poised to benefit from stimulus and capex tailwinds. With the 10-2 and 30-2 Treasury yield spreads currently at 56 bps (4.10-3.54%) and 117 bps (4.71-3.54%) respectively—the highest since early 2022—the steepening yield curve should be favorable for regional banks, which borrow short and lend long (so a higher spread leads to higher profits). Also top-ranked in our model is Healthcare based mostly on valuation, and it indeed might be a sleeper opportunity, as (according to DataTrek Research) “US large cap Healthcare has lagged the S&P 500 by more than 4 standard deviations, a level of underperformance we’ve never seen in a major sector.” And while Energy sits at the bottom of our Outlook rankings, the sector also has earned consideration based on firmer oil prices and disciplined capital plans.

The Sabrient team focuses on fundamental quality—starting with a robust quantitative growth-at-a-reasonable-price (GARP) model followed by a detailed fundamental analysis and selection process—in selecting our Baker’s Dozen, Forward Looking Value, Dividend, and Small Cap Growth portfolios, which are packaged and distributed as UITs by First Trust Portfolios. By the way, the new Small Cap Growth (SCG 48) portfolio launches on Friday 10/3, so 10/2 is the final day to get into SCG 47, which is off to a good start, led by SSR Mining (SSRM) and Mercury Systems (MRCY) among its 44 holdings. The Q3 2025 Baker’s Dozen has also started off well, led by Sterling Infrastructure (STRL) and Valero Energy (VLO) among its 13 concentrated positions, as has our annual Forward Looking Value (FLV 13) portfolio. In fact, most of our 20 live portfolios are doing well versus their relevant benchmarks. Again, value and small caps seem like good ideas for a broadening market.

Notably, our proprietary Earnings Quality Rank (EQR) is a key factor used in our internal models, and it is also licensed to the actively managed First Trust Long-Short ETF (FTLS) as a quality prescreen. In fact, you can find our EQR score along with 8 other proprietary factor scores for roughly 4,000 US-listed stocks in our next-generation Sabrient Scorecards, which are powerful digital tools that rank stocks and ETFs using our proprietary factors. You can learn more about them by visiting: http://HighPerformanceStockPortfolios.com.

In today’s post, I discuss Fed policy, the modest inflationary pressures, the weak private sector jobs market, solid-but-fragile economic growth outlook, lofty stock valuations, and the case for value and small caps given emerging monetary and fiscal support. I also reveal Sabrient’s latest fundamental-based SectorCast quantitative rankings of the ten U.S. business sectors, current positioning of our sector rotation model, and several top-ranked ETF ideas. Click HERE to find this post in printable PDF format, as well as my latest presentation slide deck and my 3-part series on “The Future of Energy, the Lifeblood of an Economy.”

As always, please email me your thoughts on this article, and feel free to contact me about speaking on any of these topics at your event!  Read on….